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Why watching TV on the computer will never take off

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Moments before Steve Jobs took the wraps off his supercharged new Macs in San Francisco today, he took a minute to talk up the company's recent successes. As numbers flashed on the big screen behind him, Jobs reviewed the latest stats on his retail stores. But the one thing I wanted to see hard data on was conspicuously absent from Jobs' keynote. It's been nearly a year since Apple added downloadable videos and a couch-surfing remote to its lineup. How are those doing, Steve? One more question: How come none of my Apple-loving geek buddies have Macs in their living rooms?
It's not just Apple that's failed to invade the living room. Computer makers have been trying to find space next to the couch for years, but so far all of these attacks have been repulsed. In January, Intel launched a huge marketing program for an ambitious PC-meets-TV brand called Viiv. Instead of a keyboard and mouse, you'd control Viiv from the sofa with a remote control. You'd download movies on demand, subscribe to TV shows, search clips by keywords, and create a personalized, self-updating video collection to watch whenever and wherever you want. This was the convergence of DVD, iTunes, YouTube, and IMDb—couch potato heaven!

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{"commentId":241944,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

I think consumers want simplicity, economy, security, and longevity and that's just not there yet. I fear that if I make the leap and put a media center computer in my media center it's going to be obsolete in 18 months. I would also fear that a virus or some other form of malware would render my media room into a sitting-and-staring-at-a-blank-screen room. Then there's the problem of waiting for something to download so you can watch it. Most people like instant gratification, so if the bandwidth isn't there to support streaming, it's more of a frustration than a convenience. Sure, I could queue a bunch of shows and video clips to download overnight, but what am I to do in the meantime? Sleep? (tongue lodged firmly in cheek) Of course there's the intellectual property rights issue. Do I have the right to redistribute media that I've downloaded and to what extent? On the hardware side, if my video card or sound card goes on the fritz, how long will I be staring at a blank screen or at silent moving images? Gee, the days of rabbit ears were easier!

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Reply#1 - Tue Aug 8, 2006 3:56 PM EDT
{"commentId":242382,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

I actually have a mac in my living room. We've been watching Lost on it.

Still, the TV shows weren't intended to be watched on a TV -- they were intended to be watched on an iPod.

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Reply#2 - Tue Aug 8, 2006 7:06 PM EDT
{"commentId":242914,"authorDomain":"fort"}

Computers are already in our living rooms - set top boxes are when all is said and done computers, custom made, with their own OS's and limited functionality, but still computers.

Now if you'd said Desktop PC's, then yes I would agree largely with the statement.

I do however suspect that anyone who starts selling pre made and configured MythTV boxes at an affordable price will probably do quite well, even if only locally. The problem with MythTV is that its a pita to setup and configure. Again you're going to be limited on what functions it performs, but thats kind of the point.

Having a device that can store my mp3's, can play my dvd's and perhaps downloaded content (legal or otherwise), can at a pinch do a little web browsing, is not a huge feature set, built into an appliance like box, would sell imho, provided that the interface was simple to use and the device itself was easy to start and stop.

Toshiba HD DVD players are actually P4 Linux boxes, in case anyone was wondering - it can be done. You just have to make sure it doesn't act like a computer.

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    Reply#3 - Wed Aug 9, 2006 5:47 AM EDT
    {"commentId":242984,"authorDomain":"rutty"}

    It's only a matter of time before our home computer becomes our complete home entertainment system. Many telcos are developing IP TV functionality which will obviously require a computer of sorts, plus media centres are becoming a reality if not particularly common at the moment.

    This is exactly what I want in my living room. A quiet PC with a large LCD flatscreen monitor that I can use to surf the 'net, watch TV and play tunes on. It's more likely than you might think

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    Reply#4 - Wed Aug 9, 2006 7:52 AM EDT
    {"commentId":242991,"authorDomain":"leestone"}

    That's what I'd like to do as well. But the computer would have to be quiet enough.
    I may even be tempted to go for a projector rather than monitor. But I'd have to be able to afford it. *Dreams*

    I already watch a lot of downlaoded shows like DLTV so beign able to watch them like a normal TV program would just be a step up for me as I already sit down in front of my desktop to watch them.

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      #4.1 - Wed Aug 9, 2006 8:00 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":243261,"authorDomain":"michaelsautter"}

      Never is quite a long time . . .

      For the last several years Major League Soccer was streaming video of most of their matches online for free. Many of them were at such a high bit rate that I could watch them full screen on my 17" flat screen monitor and you would swear that it was TV.

      More and more people, especially young people, do not want to be tied to a television and a TV schedule. They want their video/TV when they want it and how they want it. ESPN is already working towards being "pipeline agnostic," able to deliver their content by whatever means the consumer demands - traditional TV, mobile phone, internet TV, etc.

      . . . 'never' may be sooner than you think.

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        Reply#5 - Wed Aug 9, 2006 10:47 AM EDT
        {"commentId":243398,"authorDomain":"benparker"}

        Just to weigh in on my own article here - I should have explained a little more up front - I posted this article to see what the newsvine community thought on the issue. I firmly believe that technology is moving wuickly in this direction and will be there before we realize it. I have a mac in my living room and I use it quite frequently to watch things on demand, or that tv just doesn't have. I honestly thnk the possibilities are endless . . . . although there are a lot of roadblocks on the way there.

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          Reply#6 - Wed Aug 9, 2006 12:00 PM EDT
          {"commentId":244303,"authorDomain":"latino"}

          I think the current generation of kids that are now using computers for really anything that they can get their hands on will end up using them more for entertainment as well as work activities.

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          Reply#7 - Wed Aug 9, 2006 9:30 PM EDT
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